Oameni buni, acest mesaj este o inselaciune pura. O pacaleala marca Quinigol, care nu are alt scop decat sa va lase fara bani in cont. Nimeni nu a primit bani de la Loteria Quinigol. Pe linga inselaciune si pierderea financiara, este si un nou tip de phishing (FURT de date personale). Sunt convins insa ca romanii vor da click pe attachment si vor furniza toate datele personale. Pentru ca atat ii duce capul. From: quinigol ballot [mailto:ballot.quinigol@gmail.com]
Sent: 21 mai 2008 09:55 Subject: FELICITARI!!!
FELICITARI!!! FELICITARI!!!! FELICITARI!!!!
IN ATENTIA BENEFICIARULUI
IN FISIERELE ATASATE VETI GASI SCRISOAREA DE INSTINTARE A PREMIULUI CASTIGAT LA LOTERIA “QUINIGOL” SI FORMULARUL CARE TREBUIE COMPLETAT PENTRU CONFIRMAREA SI RECLAMAREA PREMIULUI RESPECTIV.
DEASEMENEA SE POATE VERIFICA INFORMATIILE TRAGERII LA SORTI A LOTERIEI ACCESAND URMATOAREA PAGINADE WEB:
http://@#$#%#%quinigol/resultados/r_s16qg4708.htm
CU STIMA,
MARIBEL ORTEGA
tocmai am primit si eu un mail care suna exact asa ,binenteles ca nu am crezut nici macar o secunda asa ceva
 
ariana eu tot am primit asa fel de mesaj!!
Nici eu nu cred !!
 
eu as fi crezut daca as fi jucat la loterie. E bine sa folositi mai multe adrese de e-mail. Unele pentru conturi , altele pentru prieteni altele pentru website si tot asa .
 
am primit si eu, sunt din chisinau, am telefonat pe numarul dat,,,, si nimic,,, am trimit si un fax, si nimic,,,, e o farsaa
 
mam convins ca e o farsa, am o parere,,,,, cine a cazut in plasa data,,,,, hai cu toti sa ne unim , si sa gasim pe cei ce sau jucat cu noi,,, eu sunt foarte suparata si vreau sai demonstrez celui ce a facut gafa data,,, sai para rau toata viata! astept raspunsurile voastre
 
Ar fi o posibilitate. Dar nu cred ca ai cum sa ii gasesti. Nici macar cu politia. Iar politia nu te ajuta pentru ca inca nu ai fost prejudiciata. Doar daca gasesti pe cineva care a pierdut bani astfel…
 
cine a primit asa ceva, si a pierdut bani,va rog frumos scritemi mie,,,,,, eu ma cert cu nuii din ei pe telefon….pe email, eu am nevoie de peroane ce au suferit din partea loteriei date, astept,,,,,,,,,
 
alanya57@mail.ru
 
en el dia de hayer recibi un correo en el cual decia que obtube un premio del quinigol
mi fono es 064-522095 de chile
 
SI EU AM PRIMIT, UN ASTFEL DE MESAJ, CHIAR MI-AU RASPUNS LA TEL , AM VB , MI0AU CERUT UN NR DE CONT SA-MI TRANSFERE BANII, L-AM DAT IAR ACUM IMI CER 400EURO CA SA SE POATA REALIZA TRANSFERUL.E ADEVARAT?
 
HAIDETI SA FACEM RECLAMATIE LA AMBASADA ROMANIEI DIN SPANIA.
 
oameni buni, nu dati nici un ban, e tzeapa! Ramaneti fara bani!
 
Veronica sunt la fel din Chisinau. Eu nu am suferit de pe urma excrocheriei date. Mi-am dat seama cint totul a ajuns la transferul de bani. Eu mam adresat la Directia Investigare a Fraudelor. Tel. lor e 577111. Persoana raspunzatoare a cazului dat e Iulian Ganga. Dar corect sa zis mai sus pina banii nu iai transmis nu te poti socoti prejudiciat. Asa ca fiti atenti
 
Apropo, nici un prestator internet nu poate sa va dea informatia cu privire la IP-ul de pe care a fost trimisa informatia. E navoie de o instalare a unor filtre suplimentare de catre SIS (security).
 
Pai sigur, doar nu o fi fraier ala sa trimita de pe contul de e-mail personal, de acasa. Sunt spam-uri, trimise mascat, nici expertii nu gasesc usor adevarata sursa a mesajului.
Ceea ce este sigur este ca e TEAPA, nu se castiga nimic. De peste 15 ani se perpetueaza aceasta schema: iti dam 1 milion, dar intai trebui sa ne trimiti tu 500 taxa… Nimeni nu a vazut banii..
Unii oameni s-au si dus in Nigeria sa-i caute si acolo au fost jefuiti. Cel mai mare pagubit intr-un astfel de caz a pierdut 400.000 de euro tot crezand ca cineva ii va da milioanele promise.
 
sunt si eu din Chisinau si am primit astfel de mesaj :), dar inka nu am ajuns la partea cu transferul banilor…oricum se vede de la o posta ca nu este aici prea mult adevar, cine a facut gafa are poate studii bune in domeniul IT dar nu pricepe nimik in psihologie sau makar economie ca sa gindeasca logic…
salutare
 
asa este, este un fake facut de un incepator. Cu toate acestea, dupa cum vezi, unii oameni chiar cred astfel de povesti…
 
Am primit de asemenea si eu un mesaj de la Loteria Quinigol,nu cred ca tineti cont dar pt. ei clientii sunt persoanele, care au afacerea proprie. DAca vre-ti sa aflati mai multe despre asemenea afaceri despre internet accesa-ti sait-ul http://www.419scam.org/419-yahoo-es.htm.
PS:eram sa uit, sait-ul lor nici macar nu exista.
 
Care este indicat in documentul ala a lor exista, dar ei profita si fac uz de diferite nume.
 
Posibil. DAr in asa “minuni” de pe internet
eu nu cred
 
Am incercat de fapt sa intru pe sait-ul lor si mi-a dat eroare
 
Eu asa minuni zilnic primesc, de unde vrei si de la cine vrei. Principalul e sa fim trezi la minte
 
Ai dreptate, dar cind incepi sa pui cap la cap, intelegi f. bine ca ce ofera ei este ireal. Cum as putea eu sa particip nustiu la care loterie si nustiu in ce parte a lumii , si plus la asta sa cistig ceva. Ingeri nu-s pe pamint. aici locuiesc numai oameni, care daca e sa le dai o caracterizare dupa trasaturile de caracter , nu prea ii deosebesti de animale. Fiecare lupta pt. existenta sa si nicidecum a vecinului.
 
Hey, salut,
Si eu am cazut prada… desi sunt la curent cu asemenea fraude…. Iata ca am scris o scrisoare si am trimiso initial la peste 400 de contacte…
dupa care mai jos vedeti discutia cu tipul dat..
Scrisoarea:
“Dear Sir / Madam / Miss,
My name is Roman Mardari and I am student from Republic of Moldova. I am writing you this letter cause I was the victim of an internet fraud and I would appreciate if you could help me in someway. If you can’t help me, I would appreciate if you could send this mail with attachments (details about the company and all our conversation) to all your contacts so no one could be the victim of that kind of internet fraud.
This is a true story and to guaranty that this is not a spam you can find attached my copy of my passport.
I never thought that I could be so stupid to get into such trouble, but I did and I would like to share my experience so that you could avoid such situations.
I received a mail from qballot@gmail.com saying in Romanian that I won in a lottery called “El Qiunigol” (a Spanish lottery). In the message box wasn’t written many details about the prize, but there was suggesting contacting my personal agent that I could find all details in the attachment below (you can find it attached “(A) El Quinigol”). The letter was saying that my mail was selected automatically by their lottery and it fixed with the number of the ticket that is a winning one… (more details you can see in the attachment). In the letter was said that I should send the application form completed and a copy of my passport. I did all of this and after that I received a message confirming the prize in my name… it was so real… that I was like hypnotized…, even if I tried to check a lot of information… I called them a lot times… and it looked so real…. But in the end, so that I could get my prize I should pay for the services an amount of sum… I did… and I lost it… now I realized that all those mails were fake, but I just …. I don’t know… maybe I was denying such a perfect moment of happiness to be fake… or not knowing, not realizing what could the consequences of those “happy moments”. The company from Spain “Direct Seguros” was like an intermediary between the lottery and the bank Ruralcaja, which should been made the transfer of the prize. Laura Lopez, from Direct Seguros was “my personal agent”; Miguel Gomez, from Ruralcaja bank was the contact person with which I spoke all the time concerning all the steps that I should take in order to get my prize…. Please avoid all those names, companies or if you can go to police and tell the situation. All details about those persons you can find in our conversation mail (attached), phone, addresses the bank account from Barcelona and so one.
I feel the most stupid person in the world, but I am not going to hide this moment cause I would like that others not to get in the same situations…
I appreciate very much if you red this letter and I would be grateful if you could share it with others in order to avoid such moments.
and as mylene farmer said… “fuck them all”
Sincerely,
Roman
P.S. Please excuse my bad expressions.”
Conversatia cu tipul:
ruralcajabank@yahoo.es: (known as Miguel Gomez)
“take heart is ok my friend, next time you will not be fooled again because you are wise now.you are now a full man……..but some americans pay millions of dollars in this good business.”
Roman:
“hey,
what are the chances of getting back my money…?
Roman.”
Miguel Gomez:
“you will not get them back because you spoil my market, america collects from middle east, europeans collect from africa, so where do i collect now moldovia don’t have money i always sent to america i don’t know how your e-mail entered to this game ….bad luck”
Miguel Gomez:
“i was once a student like you, hoping to get job after school, but that dream came to an end following what is happening today in this world, politicians turned theirselves from leaders to rulers, don’t listen to the people at all, eat the money alone , but they are not the most inteligent in the society, they just oporturenist and think nobody can tell them what to do,……putin of russia, bush of america, mugabe of zambabwe, north korea president kin de ju, castro of cuba, mushariff of pakistan,to name but few.
i never knew you are a student i dfon’t do shit with students i love them, but be wise now, our policy will not allow me to return your pay.be wise.. when the lottery money is in millions people pay thousands to claim them, be wise like a serpent and sleepless like fish.you will be somebody important in the future mark my wards, you are inteligent but i pass you,
i love you
miguel gomez”
Roman:
“yes,
you passed me…. maybe i was denying the fact that this is unreal… maybe i want it to be real… and i lost… but remember that money… and even stolen … is not the most important part in our life.. yes, we need them and sometimes we are like animals after money… but have u ever wonder…. what for do u live…?
if it is money… then i don’t know…
sometime try to answer yourself: what makes me happy? but real happy..
Roma”
Roman:
“hey,
by the way… this is not the end… as i promise…. i do have contacts all over the world.. in over 100 countries… over 28000 people who will now about this.. and who will promote this action to all their contacts… so… try to think if something else on how to steel money… cause i am gonna start a promoting campaign all over the world…
see yeah 😉
P.S. Nothing personal, just business!”
Sincerely,
Roman
 
da ……….
Superb
 
hearing all of your stories i tried to scare him a little bit: %^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^
Hello,
In case you forgot, you’ve been mixed-up with students…. Your biggest mistake….
I just found up your e-mail address and realized that you are a simple ghost. YOU DON”T EXIST!!!
And I tried to find out your real name… So…
I had a little bit of success in that area… :))
You’re fried dude!!!
How do you think, how much authorities will pay me for that info???
Nevermind, because I’m sending it for free…
I know that already all over the World there are a lot of people losing money with that crap your ‘e sending “click to claim!”
Well, that’s a fraud, and now… You are going to pay for that !!!
I’ve got an e-mail from you on an other e-mail account I have and now I know for sure who you are…
I can tell you for sure that your market is gonna be getting down….
Chico Chill Out now…
You have very less time on your freedom..
So.. Please enjoy IT….
“PS> If you don’t belive me… Check out this program named “team Viewer” and just check out that login and password you’ll see…
THAT Login and password made your account, and brought me to you…
You have 80 hours left of freedom…
ENJOY!!!”
You still can try to make me silent…. But I don’t think you’ll be able to …….
—————————————
The answer was rude… so i passed his e-mail to someone who knows how to locate him… in the mean time…
i need everybody who had some losses from this e-mail to write a confirmation that this man is dangerous and foxy, so we could eventually charge him in court for his actions, after we get enough proves. So what do you say??
Will you help me to get that shit???
 
hey John,
Great job!
Let’s burn that son of the b**** 😉
Good Luck
 
este adevarat ca e o farsa,dar pina la urma n-am putut crede in acest lucru.E greu de realizat ca poti pierde bani dintr-o nebunie.
 
Cine este din Republica Moldova si a devenit victima in urma fraudei sunati la Directia Investigare a Fraudelor. Tel. lor e 577111.
 
Baieti imi spunet,va rog, a putut cineva din voi sa recapete macar o parte din banii pierduti?Si unde se mai poate de apelat afara de Directia de Investigare A Fraudelor.
 
si eu am primit recent o sumedenie de scrisori si chiar am discutat cu d-na Izabel Garsia care chipurile e managerul la directsegurosspain.
Am transefarat comisionul cerut, si acum mia venit scrisoare ca sa transfer si impozitul cerut. Mi-am dat seama ca ceva nu e in regula, de aceia am inceput sa fac investigatii, mi-a parut straniu ca toate emailurile sunt yahoo.es.
Tocmai asa v-am gasit pe voi culegind in google ruralcajabank@yahoo.es.
Nu cred ca-mi voi putea recupera banii, nu-mi e atit de acei 400 E transferati cit de faptul ca e mizerabil ceia ce fac ei…intradevar crezi in ceva frumos, traiesti citeva zile cu o speranta…si apoi o trauma sufleteasca…
bine ca vam gasit si nu am transferat si impozitul cerut de 800 de euro.
am sa fiu foarte bucuroasa daca vor fi prinsi.
 
Salut,
Iata ce ne spune Interpolul… pacat ca gasim informatia data dupa ce pierdem deja…
sau accesati
Lottery Fraud
Do not believe you have won a prize in a lottery in which you never participated.
Lottery frauds are becoming increasingly commonplace. These frauds are likely to be advanced fee frauds which aim to defraud honest people of their hard-earned savings.
Typically, the potential victim, or ‘target’ receives a notification by unsolicited mail or e-mail that they have won a large prize in a lottery even though they never even signed up to play. Often, the target is the sole winner or one of a very small group of winners. The target is asked to maintain confidentiality either for security or tax reasons in order to avoid duplication of claims.
Targets are told that winners were selected by a computer ballot system or by random searches in open address books and e-mail address lists. It is usually claimed that the lottery operates under governmental or international control using names such as the ‘Spanish National Lottery’, ‘Sweepstake Lottery Company’ to create the impression of an apparently bona fide lottery institution.
Usually a named contact point (claim manager or paying officer) is assigned to assist the ‘winner’ to claim his/her prize. Telephone and fax numbers or Internet website addresses are provided but postal addresses are rarely given.
Winners will be told they have a short time period within which to claim their prize before the money is returned to the lottery association or a governmental institution. In order to claim the prize, the winner must provide detailed personal information on an application form provided by the claim manager. Copies of identification documents are requested in order to prove the winner’s real identity.
The target is able to choose whether to receive the money by wire transfer, a new bank account which needs to be opened, or by meeting the claim manager or one of his assistants and picking up the money directly. The target is then asked to pay several advance fees which are required to transfer the money using Western Union or other similar companies. These fees might include licensing fees, registration fees, and various forms of taxes and attorney’s fees. Advance fees may also be required to open new bank accounts into which the money is to be transferred. All may seem plausible to unsuspecting victims and are required to be paid in cash before the winnings can be released. The fraudsters take a ‘scattergun’ approach by contacting large numbers of people knowing full well that most people will see through the scam. However, a certain percentage will be naïve and greedy enough to be taken in.
Sometimes money will be handed over to the victims at a meeting, but in all known cases where this has happened, the notes were found to be counterfeit.
General Advice
Always be suspicious if you are asked to pay advance fees in order to get a prize! If it seems too good to be true – it probably is!
Be aware that your identity details can be used by the offenders to commit criminal offences in your name, to get access to your bank accounts, or to open up lines of credit in your name.
Recommendations:
Do not reply to any of these messages
In particular, do not send any money
Do not send or hand over identification documents – not even copies
Never surrender details of your bank accounts or payment cards
If you are already in contact with these criminals or have already paid advance fees:
Save all received and sent email and text messages
Save all documents of transactions and remittances
Never agree to meet the criminals in person in order to receive a prize – you will not receive any money and you may be putting yourself in danger
Contact your local police immediately and follow their advice
 
iata noi e-mail-uri de spam:
– faxbox@yahoo.com
– staatspromo2008@aol.com
if u found this mails here, it means they are pishers… don’t believe them & don’t give them ur ID…
 
I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU PEOPLE ROMAN, VERONIKA AND NATALIA
DID ANY OF YOU PLAY LITTERY?
SO WHY DO YOU THINK YOU WON LOTTERY THAT YOU DID NOT PLAY?
ALL OF YOU ARE THE SAME THING WITH THE INTERNET SCAMMERS AND YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PUNISHED LIKE THOSE CRIMINALS.
HAD IT BEEN YOU PEOPLE COLLECTED THE MONEY WILL ANY OF YOU COME OUT AND SAY HE OR SHE RECECIVED LOTTERY MONEY THAT HE OR SHE DID NOT PLAY?
BECAUSE YOU PEOPLE LOOSE NOW YOU ARE COMPLAINING.
MARY
 
si eu am primit asemenea mail-uri cum ca as fi castigat in spania. eu sunt de acord sa ne unim si sa facem reclamatie dar nu cred ca trebuie la ambasada pt. ca aceste mail-uri sunt trimise din tara, trebuie sa ne informam unde putem face reclamatiile
 
Hey Mary,
People still dream to earn free money, but it’s NOT as bad as cheating and scaming others!!
The real MAFIA of the Internet is behind these scams…
 
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Imi pare rau dar restul leam sters.astea is mai proaspete
si aveti grija!!1in caz de ii prindeti faceti cu ei cea ce ar face VLAD TEPES…
 
buna
 
sunt din chisinau am primit si eu doua scrisori. vreau sa va spun ca loteria qunigol intradevar exista dar cineva se foloseste de ia simi scrie noua.pentru ane intoarce banii trebue sa ne unim si sa dam la curte europeana insusi loteria pentru ca ei sunt datori sa aiba grija sa nu se intimple asemenea lucruri.scriti pe: andrei_fak@mail.ru sau sunati:+37379036369.
 
acum 2 zile am primit si eu aceeasi scrisoare de la loterie miam dat seama ca este ceva in neregula deoarece ma roaga sa tin secret acest premiu ca este politica lor si sa nu fie cerut de o alta persoana pai daca il cerea o alta persoana nu se verifica datele? ok apoi am cautat banca RURALCAJA BANCO ESPANA si am trimis un e-mail si iam rugat sami spuna daca lucreaza cu aceasta loterie si daca este adevarat tot ce mia trimis ei ,nu am primit raspuns (numai azi lam trimis) probabil cami va spune ca este o farsa deoarece vam gasit pe voi cei care lati primit mai demult. daca voi primi raspuns va voi tine la curent
 
am primit aceeasi scrisoare ca si voi, mi s-a cerut si 400 euro pentru transfer, citind cele scrise de voi mai sus, intr-adevar cred ca este o retea si incearca sa gasesca persoane care sa le cada in plasa,intr-adevar trebuie depistati pentru ca sa nu mai profite de persoanele “inocente”
 
si eu am primt asa ceva un email cum as fi cistigat la loteria Qgol spania si am trimis copie dupa bultin si acel formular copletat cind am cautato pe numita ISABEL GARCIA nu am putut sa dau de ea si cautind pe net am dat de acest forum si cind am citit comenturile voastre adoua zii miam sunat bank un de am contu si a solicitat blocarea contului de oarece eu am trimis la ei copie dupa buletin si datele bancare cont si asa mai de parte hai desti sa facem ceva sa ii oprim sa ne unim
 
as vrea sa stiu daca vreunul din voi ati completat in formular ca mergeti sa ridicati personal premiul, oare ce reactie au?
 
Am primit si eu un emai-ll exact asa este o foarte mare teapa nu stiu pana unde vor sa ajunga acesti infractori dar sa nu le furnizati nici o data s-au vreun numar de cont .ATENTIE !!!
 
acum citeva minute am primit si eu emaill.dupa ce am ramas cu gura cascata la monitor si am visat citeva minute,m-am scuturat sa ma trezesc si am pornit sa fac citeva investigatii.asa v-am gasit pe voi oameni cu suflet.va multumesc tuturor pentru semnalul de alarma tras aici.nici nu stiti ce bine mi-ati facut.la situatia financiara care o am eu acum si cu copil in facultate asta mai i-mi trebuia.sa ma puna aghiuta sa inprumut bani de nu stiu pe unde si apoi sa iau teapa.cred ca ma omoram singura.sa va dea d-zeu sanatate ca scrieti si ca ii avertizati si pe fraieri ca mine.
 
Eu am suferit din cauza asta si am pierdut la vreo 700
Euro am apelat si la persoane de pe loc din Spania dar nu iau gasit pe adresele indicate in sctusorile lor. Cum pot sami intorc banii eu am toate notele de transfer. Ajutati va rog, caci recunosc ca am frinat foarte tare.
Va multumesc,
 
eu am jucat si am castigat
nu stiu cum ati luat voi teapa eu am fost personal la banca si suma a fost de 1200 euro
 
si eu am primit emailul, am asteptat dupa care am fost azi la banca sa intreb de presupusul “manager” si au zis cei de la banca , ca adresele sunt false, nu sunt ale bancii, dar sa ii las sa faca o fotocopie sa investigheze sa ii prinda pe cei care fac asta, avand in vedere ca folosesc numele bancii si le aduce prejudiciu de imagine. Orice email ati primi, faceti orice, dar nu va dati conturile sau parole sau cine mai stie ce. Eu chiar acum vroiam sa le trimit un email, bifand optiunea sa imi dea “premiul” in mana , sa vedem ce vor zice atunci.
Numai bine si aveti grija, banii nu cad din cer.
 
este o mare tzeapa!!! AVETI MARE GRIJA !! nu dati date personale nimanui sau alt gen de date
 
si mai e ceva… daca optezi sa primesti bani in mana iti cer un comision de 700 euro,,, ca sa trimita 2 badiguarzi dupa tine iti cere banii inainte sa ajungi in Spania ATENTIE !!! TEAPA!!!
 
Buna! am primit si eu un mail, d fapt doua, in primu imi ziceau k am castigat cu nush c numere pe care eu trebuia sa le trim lor inapoi sa confirm, in al 2-lea treb sa trim o fisa trimisa de ei, completata cu datele mele si o copie de pe buletin, am zis k nu au c face cu ele asa ca le-am trim, acum sa vad ce urmeaza… eu cik am castigat 1,700,000 $… da, ar fi ceva numai ca banii nu cad din cer senin… “EL BACO SEGUROS S.A.” tot din Spania is cik. Sa dea D-zeu sa ii prinda intr-o zi cineva sa nu mai poata fraierii oamenii! dak aveti vreo ideea despre cum am putea sa ii descoperim sunt de partea voastra, doar sa imi spuneti c sa fac in continuare, am sa va tin la curent cu ce imi vor trim inapoi…
 
Sper ca nu le-ai trimis bani…
Sper de asemenea ca oamenii sa intelega ca LOTO NICIODATA nu cere bani ca sa ridici premiul. Este semnalul clar de TEAPA!
 
nu le-am trim nik, tosmai acum am primit mail…
WINNING PRIZE APPROVED FOR PAYMENT FOR USD $1.7 M ( ONE MILLION SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATE DOLLARS ONLY).
Attn:Winner, After all necessary verification, from data provided, giving us the authority, to act as your claims agent and sol representative. We forwarded these data to the lottery company, and we just received nverification notification from them, which is positive.
We are pleased to inform you that the Miniterio de Justicia of Spain has approved the payment of your winning prize of this year Euro million Email lottery international. Which was credited the total sum of USD $1.7M (One Million Seven Hundred Thousand United State Dollars Only).
Ministerio de Justicia, has also notified us that before the paying bank, BBVA (Banco Bilbao Vizcaya Argentaria) can effect the transfer of your total winning fund to any of your nominated bank account or optional certify cashier cheque, you are required to pay the Municipal Task fee of your total winning fund to the Local Government of Madrid (AYUNTAMIENTO DE MADRID) via Ministerio de Economia Y Hacienda.
And are to obtain Obtain the Municipal tax receipt from the Local Government in Madrid Spain Which is just €1.256.00 (One Thousand Two Hundred and Fifty Six Euro Only)We shall Instruct you on how to make payment once we have acknowledge our email today.
We assure you that as soon as you paid the Municipal Task fee of your total winning prize of USD $1.7M (One Million Seven Hundred Thousand United State Dollars Only). Your winning fund will be transfer into any of your nominated bank account within 72 banking hours or optional certify cashier cheque would be issue to your name and send to you via register postal agency (D.H.L).
Note that your winning prize can not be deduct from, This is due to the strong insurance bond policy covering it until the Municipal task fee is paid and fund notarize and sign by a public notary to the name of the beneficiary and the winning email address. We look forward to your quick response on the above subject.
If you have any question Call Dr Bekken Edwin on telephone .Once again congratulations on this financial matter.
Best regards,
Mrs .Marta De Horn
si mi-au mai trim ceva atasat… bineinteles k tra sa o completez sa o trim lor ca sunt de acord dar nu voi face asa ceva NEVER! e ceva al naibii k pe prima hartie atasata era vb de EL BACO SEGUROS S.A. iar acum e EURO MILLION LOTTERY COMPANY S.A.si cu toate astea nu ii putem oprii cumva? ce tra sa facem???
 
si numerele de fax vad ca sunt tot de Spania +34 652 063 073, si fax: +34 917 905 008 iar dak intri pe http://www.euromillions.com observi ca tra sa stii germana… k nu e nici macar in engleza…
 
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iata ca ei continua…..
si nu toti au norocul sa citeasca despre tzepe, sa inteleaga ca nu poti castiga nimic fara sa participi. Oamenii sunt saraci si spera mereu la ceva mai bun.
/ Las Acacias 8 ,11007, Cбdiz
TEL :+34-665-252-812
FAX:+34.616.118.416
quinigolespana@yahoo.es
NR. DE REF.: ROEUSP7775553
NR. DE CERERE: X–8007891324–Z,
IN ATENTIA BENEFICIARULUI
INSTINTARE DE PREMIU, ULTIM APEL.
Ne face placere sa va instintam de aparitia loteriei EL QUINIGOL , un program international care are loc in Madrid, Spania pe data de 31 august 2008. E-mailul dumneavoastra care corespunde numarului de tichet 357-0146-744-224 cu numarul de serie 51128-07 a castigat numarul norocos 1-M-M-1-1-1+0-2 care a castigat loteria de categoria a treia.
In consecinta s-a aprobat sa intrati in posesia sumei de Ђ 93.015,45 ( NOUAZECI SI TREI DE MIL CINCISPREZECE EURO PATRUZECI SI CINCI CENTI), fiind inregistrat cu NR. DE REFERINTA :EUMESP7775553 SI NR. DE CERERE X-8007891324-Z. Aceast premiu face parte din o suma totala de Ђ1.581.262.65 ( UN MILION CINCISUTE SASEZECI SI DOUA MII DOUA SUTE SASEZECI SI DOI EURO,SASEZECI SI CINCI CENTI) impartite pe plan international intre 17 persoane castigatoare a loteriei categoriei a treia. Modul inmanarii acestei sumi se poate alege dintre urmatoarele optiuni: (A) C.E.C (B) TRANSFER BANCAR (C) INMANARE PERSONALA.
Suma dumneavoastra este depozitata la banca Ruralcaja fiind asigurata cu numarul dumneavoastra de referinta din motive de securitate si va va fi inmanata din hotararea Consiliului Loteriei dupa ce se vor verifica toate datele.
Va cerem sa tineti in secret acest premiu si sa nu il faceti cunoscut in mod public pana cand va va fi inmanat, deoarece face parte din politica de securitate a loteriei pentru a se evita cererea de catre o alta persoana. Agentul dumneavoastra a cumparat tichetul cu e-mailul dumneavoastra pentru programul de anul acesta ,fiind un total 56940 de tichete care au fost cumparate de catre agent pentru cetateni din Europa, Asia, Canada si Statele Unite ale Americii.Toti participantii au fost selectati la intamplare prin intermediul unui program computerizat.
Pentru a se putea procesa inmanarea premiului loteriei , va rugam contactati agentul dumneavoastra Dna. ANA SANCHEZ managerul de externe a bancii Ruralcaja ,la tel.+34.693.548.415 si sa ii facilitati nr. de referinta si nr.de cerere.
Puteti verifica detalile extragerii la sorti accesand urmatoarea pagina de web:
Contactati pe d-na Ana Sanchez, pentru a solicita formularul de cerere a premiului , care va trebui mai apoi sa-l completati si sa-l trimiteti prin fax (00 34.911.817.394 ).sau e-mail (ruralcajabank@yahoo.es ; ruralcaja@madrid.com ) bancii Ruralcaja pentru a se putea realiza verificarea datelor.
FELICITARI inca o data din partea tuturor membrilor personalului pentru ca faceti parte din acest program international de loterie.
JUAN FERNANDO HERNБNDEZ
(PRESEDINTE)
Iata cum o scrisoare poate parea oficiala, dar nu are antet, are adrese de yahoo ( tineti minte ca nici o societate serioasa, cu atat mai putim o banca, nu are adres de email pe yahoo.
MARE GRIJA
Poate n-ar fi rau sa compunem o avertizare pe care sa o trimitem intregului adressbook
 
Lottery Fraud
Do not believe you have won a prize in a lottery in which you never participated.
Lottery frauds are becoming increasingly commonplace. These frauds are likely to be advanced fee frauds which aim to defraud honest people of their hard-earned savings.
Typically, the potential victim, or ‘target’ receives a notification by unsolicited mail or e-mail that they have won a large prize in a lottery even though they never even signed up to play. Often, the target is the sole winner or one of a very small group of winners. The target is asked to maintain confidentiality either for security or tax reasons in order to avoid duplication of claims.
Targets are told that winners were selected by a computer ballot system or by random searches in open address books and e-mail address lists. It is usually claimed that the lottery operates under governmental or international control using names such as the ‘Spanish National Lottery’, ‘Sweepstake Lottery Company’ to create the impression of an apparently bona fide lottery institution.
Usually a named contact point (claim manager or paying officer) is assigned to assist the ‘winner’ to claim his/her prize. Telephone and fax numbers or Internet website addresses are provided but postal addresses are rarely given.
Winners will be told they have a short time period within which to claim their prize before the money is returned to the lottery association or a governmental institution. In order to claim the prize, the winner must provide detailed personal information on an application form provided by the claim manager. Copies of identification documents are requested in order to prove the winner’s real identity.
The target is able to choose whether to receive the money by wire transfer, a new bank account which needs to be opened, or by meeting the claim manager or one of his assistants and picking up the money directly. The target is then asked to pay several advance fees which are required to transfer the money using Western Union or other similar companies. These fees might include licensing fees, registration fees, and various forms of taxes and attorney’s fees. Advance fees may also be required to open new bank accounts into which the money is to be transferred. All may seem plausible to unsuspecting victims and are required to be paid in cash before the winnings can be released. The fraudsters take a ‘scattergun’ approach by contacting large numbers of people knowing full well that most people will see through the scam. However, a certain percentage will be naïve and greedy enough to be taken in.
Sometimes money will be handed over to the victims at a meeting, but in all known cases where this has happened, the notes were found to be counterfeit.
General Advice
Always be suspicious if you are asked to pay advance fees in order to get a prize! If it seems too good to be true – it probably is!
Be aware that your identity details can be used by the offenders to commit criminal offences in your name, to get access to your bank accounts, or to open up lines of credit in your name.
Recommendations:
Do not reply to any of these messages
In particular, do not send any money
Do not send or hand over identification documents – not even copies
Never surrender details of your bank accounts or payment cards
If you are already in contact with these criminals or have already paid advance fees:
Save all received and sent email and text messages
Save all documents of transactions and remittances
Never agree to meet the criminals in person in order to receive a prize –
 
thanks Geo, that’s what I’m saying too.
 
Si eu tocmai am primit mailul cu loteria Quinigol.
O sa le dau un reply: GO AND FUCK YOURSELF WITH YOUR LOTTERY !
 
aceeasi situatie am intimpinat-o si am primit aseara doua scrisori dar culmea se spune ca sint 17 persoane numai din ce stiu eu si vreo 20 deci teapa pe fata problema este cine le trimite in romaneste pt ca eu am vorbit direct in spania cu frati mei si surpriza cei de la banca nu stiu nimic
 
si eu am primit azi in ajun de Mos Nicolae aceeasi frumoasa scrisoare, dar spre norocul meu nu cred in asa prosti da totusi …..nu se stie nicioada si am inceput sa verific adresele, ioc nimik nu exista adrese dar in schimb v-am gasit pe voi, cei cu corespondenta………..nu nu este nimik adevarat aveti grija! nu dati banii din mana nenorocitilor.
bafta in continuare sa nu picati in plasa
 
deci fara deci pentru toti cretinii care cred ca niste bani cad din cer.. relaxati va ca asa ceva se practica de cand s a infiintat internetul pingul si venerabiluk Q-dos, si este o inselatorie.si da.. va pot numi cretini pe cei care au inceput o astfel de corespondenta cu niste necunoscuti .. pentru asta sunteti.un exemplu paralel ar fi .. va sun maine sa va zic sa mi lasati cheia in usa de la intrare a casei voastre ca sunt instalatorul si trebuie sa repar ceva…gratuit!!!.si va mai dau si bani….pe romaneste..”a-ti luat-o in freza” .. ciocu mic si in locul vostru nici macar numai intrebam daca se pot recupera.. in locul vostru mi as pune pistolul la tampla dreapta si m as uita in stanga.. cand trag sa vad daca sigur a iesit glontul… jalnici creaturi suntem..
 
am primit si eu pe 4 decembrie instiintare ca sint cistigator,constat ca este TEAPAAAAA.
 
Salut,
treaba cu “ai casigat X dar tre sa ne trimiti Y bani” e de cand lumea.
Si la noi in tara se facea: “Castiga 1.000.000 daca comanzi acest set special de carti! ”
Din pacate, banii nu cad din cer … 🙁
 
sunt foarte dezamagita de acesti “oameni” daca se pot numi asa…sunt din buzau si am primit shi eu un mail….mi-am dat seama k e o farsa dar am vrut sa le fk jocul pana knd mi-au cerut bani….evident k le-am rsp printr-un mail in care i-am jignit de mama focului.sunt nishte animale … shi se joaca cu sentimentele oamenilor…
 
am primit si eu azi. si pe cand sa cred ca is ca becali de bogat v-am gasit pe voi si nu am continuat cautarile. nu am luat teapa ca alti, imi pare rau pt ei si is deacord sa-i detectam pe acesti banditi care fac datorii la oameni nevinovati si fara cu prea multa informatie.
 
ma num.dorel si eu am primit acest ms.ca am castigat ,eu am mai multeadr.de m si am pr pe toate .culmea ca au primit si niste priieteni ,si tot aceleas nr.era sa tr si banii pe care ii cereau ,bine ca am dat de forum si nu am tr.nimic TEAPA sunt escroci
 
Si eu am primit felicitari!!!!!! ,formular ,tot ce trebuie si sa trimit suma de 299,22 euro prin wester union .teapa toti cei care au muscat.Eu ma-m oprit la timp sa nu le dau banii!!!!
 
AM PRIMIT SI EU ASEMENEA E-MAIL, DAR DIN MOMENT CE NU AM JUCAT CUM SA CASTIG ? L-AM IGNORAT URGENT.SUNT NISTE ESCROCI .ATENTIE MARE.
 
The Yahoo/Msn Lottery Incoporation
PO Box 1010,Liverpool
L70 1NL,United Kingdom .
Ref: YM35447XN
Batch: YM 09102XN
Winning number.YM09788YM
This is to inform you that you have won a Bonaza prize award of Five hundred thousand,Great Britain Pound Sterling(500,000.00) for the month of December 2008 Lottery promotion which is organized by YAHOO/MSN LOTTERY INC & WINDOWS LIVE.
YAHOO/MSN & MICROSOFT WINDOWS, collects all the email addresses of the people that are active online, among the millions that subscribed to Yahoo and Hotmailwe only select five people every Month as our winners through electronic balloting System without the winner applying,we congratulate you for being one of the people selected.
 
asta cei ? Jegosii iar vor sa tepuiasca?
 
Evident, este o alta forma de pacaleala. Pentru a castiga 500.000 iti vor cere sa achiti 500 de euro. Daca platesti iti cer inca 5000 si tot asa. Cand incepi sa tipi dupa bani iti spun dupa cum poti citi mai sus:
DID ANY OF YOU PLAY LITTERY?
SO WHY DO YOU THINK YOU WON LOTTERY THAT YOU DID NOT PLAY?
Ai jucat vreodata la aceasta loterie? Daca nu ai jucat, cum te asteptai sa castigi??
 
am primit 10 mailuri k am cistigat 1 milion de $ de la free lotoo da am si jukat culmea e posibil? oare sau e o mare tzeapa mia trimis si lista cu cistigatori eadevarat sant pe lista da totusi nu cred
cum sa dau de ei
 
Eu nu cred ca vezi vreun premiu de la asa ceva 🙂 Darmite un milion de dolari. Incearca sa vezi – o sa iti ceara bani inainte…
 
Buna seara toturor.
Am primit si eu ca DVS, si ma vedeam plina de bani acum la batrinete.
 
Hi, Everybody. I’ve got a similiar e-mail 5 days ago, and I also thought that I won.
Here is the copy of that mail:
ADMÓN DE LOTERIA N° 2
LOTERIA ESPANA
C/ Las Acacias 8 ,11007, Cádiz
TEL :+34-693-565-805
FAX:+34.616.118.416
<...>YOU HAVE WON
You have therefore been approved for a lump sum payout of �1.500.000,00
<...>
MRS ANA SANCHEZ
BANCO ESPIRITO SANTO
CTO.-PASEO ALAMEDA,
34/46023 VALENCIA ESPAŃA
NIF G-5889999/8. Š "
TEL.00 34.634.015.778
FAX.00 34.911.817.394
e-mail: : bancoespiritosanto@spainmail.com
bankespiritosanto@yahoo.com.hk
SINCERELY
JUAN FERNANDO HERNÁNDEZ
(PRESIDENT)
I have spoke to them much, I was calling and sending e-mails, everything looked fine, but suddenly I saw that forum, opened up my eyes, and got really dissapointed.
I wanna ask You about the investigation.. Well they send me that e-mail 5 days ago, which means they are still free.. So did anyone went to police with that case? If so, I would appraciate if that person could write here further infos.
Dissapointed Bogdan.
 
Sorry Bogdan. I dont think that thiefes stopped, but they replicate the scam all arround the world. If you lost money, maybe you should go to the police…
 
I didn’t Pay them any money, however I hope that they get caught soon. Thanks anyway Dan Dragomir.
 
Am primit asha o scrisoare am sunat la primul numar .
Mi-a spus ca da intradevar este asha ceva,dar mai intii ma intrebat ‘num de ref’ shi dupa aia "ce doriti"
Shi mia spus sa sun la banca numarul de jos.
am sunat shi banca mia spus ca "agentul acom nui shi va fi luni(monday )la 11 (am sunat vineri)
ashtept Cum aflu atunci va scriu
 
Pai nu suni la nicio banca, suni tot pe un “coleg” al teparilor si apoi ala te convinge sa platesti. O sa zica ca este un depozit pe numele tau sau asa ceva. Vrajeala!
 
A la atención de:Coral Dueñas Fernando Alfredo
Transferencia a su favor
Deaseamos informarle que la empresa de LOTERIA INTERNATIONAL ESPANA ha depositado su dinero en nuestro banco y una cuenta ha sido abierta y preparada para la transferencia de su premio
Hemos recivido sus fondos de un total de €415.810.00 (CUATROCIENTOS Y QUINCE MIL, OCHOCIENTOS Y DIEZ EUROS) .
 
Buna tutror! Am asa o intrebare daca totusi ai trimis banii, ca de exemplu loteria EL QUINIGOL si ai pastrat bonurile de tranzactie, mai ai sanse careva de intoarcere a banilor pierduti?
 
Din pacate, doar cu ajutorul Politiei, daca faci plangere, se organizeaza vreo ancheta, gasesc vreun vinovat… Din ceea ce au povestit mai sus oamenii nu se vede niciun alt mod de a recupera banii.
Imi pare rau.
 
Cred ca banii nu mai pot fi recuperati
 
A PRIMIT CINEVA DE LA FREELOTO UN CHECK CARE SCRIE PE EL CA MIAU TRIMIS 1.000.000 DOL.ESTE REAL ASA CEVA?POT FACE CEVA CU EL,ORI POT SAL FOLOSESC NUMAI LA VECEU.POATE FI REAL ORI…..
 
Cred ca e la mijloc o pacaleala. Nu iti cere sa platesti nimic?
 
FELICITARI !
Suntem încântaţi să vă informez că aţi câştigat suma de patru sute optzeci şi cinci de mii Marii Britanii Lire sterline lui
485,000.00 RON de la YAHOO! MSN (Windows Live ) Premii programului.
YAHOO! colectează toate adresele de email ale persoanelor care sunt active
online , printre milioanele care au subscris la Yahoo şi Hotmail şi
câteva de la alţi furnizori de e-mail . Şase persoane sunt selectate lunar
beneficia de această promoţie şi tu eşti unul dintre câştigătorii selectate .
PREMIUL DE PLATA şi susţin
Castigatorii vor fi plătite în conformitate cu lui / ei de soluţionare Centrului .
Yahoo a premiului trebuie să fie susţinut , nu mai târziu de 15 zile de la data
Egal notificare. Orice premiu nu a susţinut în această perioadă va fi
reţinută .
A afirmat de mai jos sunt numere de identificare :
Numărul de lot : 76889
Număr de referinţă: 255789
PIN: 8976
tu se sfaturi pentru a reveni la noi prin
Clearance-ul dvs. de contact cu credite Dr Mark
Anderson pentru Revendicaţi-vă .
Contact: Dr Mark Anderson.
E-mail:yahoomsnawardsclaimsdept5@gmail.com
Telefon:+447024067872 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting +447024067872 end_of_the_skype_highlighting
Cu stimă,
D-na . Carol Jones
Pe linie de co- coordonator pentru
PREMII YAHOO si ferestre LIVE PROGRAMUL ,
Totalizator programul internaţional .
****************************** ******************** **********
 
Asta ce o mai fii ? Telefon cu supra taxa ?
 
NU, la telefon iti spune ca primesti SIGUR premiul, daca le trimiti lor bani. Suma variaza, la unii le cer 200 de euro. la altii 500, altii 1000. Depinde cum par oamenii de increzatori.
 
da da , sa fie sanatosti si sa astepte pana ii sun eu sau pana le trimit bani . ms de raspuns , o seara placuta la toata lumea
 
Nu stiu cum pot unii oameni sa creada asa ceva..Eu sunt din Buzau si am primit acest mesaj,dar bineinteles,m-am comportat ca si cum nu l-as fi primit..ei incearca sa te pacaleasca…conteaza sa nu te lasi tu pacalit…Nu sunt de acord cu ce fac,dar inca nu exista cineva in Romania asta care sa-i poata pedepsi..Asta e tara noastra..
 
La freelotto.com e o alta teapa.Multi se plang pe net ca nu poata sa stearga abonamentul de la serviciul F.A.S.T. si te tot freaca cu emailuri in lista paid and eligible si cu 0,99$ in prima luna,dar tot ei au de castigat.Odata ce le-ai dat datele de pe card iti ia in fiecare luna cate 14,99$ pana ce te prinzi tu ca sa-ti faci alt card nou!
 
Buna Ziua, eu sunt Regina Doamna Smith, ONU creditor Împrumut privat, de îngrijire oferă timp credite de oportunitate de Viață SA ISI plătească facturile si datoriile personale SI SA înceapă propria afacere la companii privat SI PERSOANE fizice, la o rata a dobânzii de 2%. Decizia, contactati-ne azi… DACA AM Împrumut de ingrijire aveți nevoie a scris o umple de data / Informatii version spațiile prevăzute version formularul de mai Jos astfel Incat SA putem Servi Mai Bine. Imprumutatul DATA S 1) Ștampila Intreg: …………………………………… … ………. 2) Stat: ………………………………………. …………. 3) Adresa: ………………………………………. ………… 4) Stat: ………………………………………. ……………. 5) Sex: ………………………………………. ……………… 6) Stare: ……………………………………… …. 7) Ocupatia: ………………………………………. ……. 8) Telefon: ………………………………………. .. 9) Pozitia Prezent la locul de MUNCA: ………………… 10) Venituri: ……………………………………… 11) Suma de Împrumut Necesare: ………………………………. 12) Durata imprumut: ……………………………………… … 13) Scop: …………………………………….. 14) Religie: ………………………………………. ………. 15) V-ati aplicat anterior …………………………… 16) Numele purtate anterior ……………………………………… ………………….. Doamna Regina
spam@spam.com
 
E si Regina si lucreaza la ONU da? Hahaha!